Only using it for adhesion on white plastic, as to not deepen the final color as the red does, but if your planning on using it to lighten up a dark body for a light color, it's gonna take several coats. Rubbing it will not remove primer at all, and scraping it with anything other than metal wouldn't do much either. Hi guys, This weekend I should hopefully be attempting to paint my first body shell - hard body Grasshopper II (although I have a few shells here s In the following sections of this article, I provide: It reacted violently to it and developed "wrinkles." This primer covers great leaving all the fine detail and panel lines sharp and smooth . I would highly recommend you don't use sprays for lexan on hard plastic bodies. Never had a problem spraying the Fine Surface Primer. Bash them for reviving an old post? Granted I took my time and slowly dusted the primer on, but that still means there's a lot of primer in here. They say: "To avoid possible The gray fully covers in about three coats for me, I tried this primer on a chrome piece, and it's not yet fully covered after three coats. Order Ascending; Order Descending; dirkpitt77. This is rare for me and I do not believe is related to humidity. The Tamaya gray surface primer is the best I have ever used. "If a lie is told often, and long enough, it becomes reality!". Thanks again. However, the time may vary depending on the type of Tamiya paint and the temperature. If you read the label it says: "Wait 12h to cure before masking". Reviewed in the United States on September 14, 2022. Wanting an exact replica of the Ford I first had when I was 18. This page works best with JavaScript. On Thursday apparently we are to have a 50-degree day again; I will then paint my little Ford with the shade closest to the color of my original car---sort of Sea Green, trying to do this early enough in afternoon so it can dry and I can achieve 2 coats anyway. Acts almost powdery when it goes on. GL and looking forward to seeing your painted body. Perhaps it was an old stock. And I have had different results using different primers but the same main colors. I've used many a primer from big box to big bucks. I usually put the can in warm water just before use on colder days .This increases the pressure in the can and hellps to achieve a better more uniforms spray . They both are just as good, I have more of a personal preference to the gray though. Fortunately, my son does modeling for role-playing games and educated my on asking the parts before applying primer, all to give the acrylic paints (new to me, also) good adhesion and prevent flaking/chipping later on down the line. It was only available in grey so I'd use their black and white aerosols if needed. Developed by Ralph Hoffman on the Esopus, the Black Bear is effective in high and/or off-color water conditions. Much better than whatever rattlecan primer you can snag in the paint dept. I am sure people who haven't tried Tamiya primer would find this thread useful. Being a lacquer primer, it grips onto the plastic like a shark would bite a fish. You are right about there being a difference. The people who need to relax are the ones who get exercised because someone responds to an old post. Tamiya polycarbonate sprays won't attack the plastic, but dry with a matt or semigloss surface I'm really Our community is FREE to join. Developed on the Esopus Creek by Ralph Hoffman as a wet fly. Display as a link instead, Most importantly, the long term topcoat holdout is excellent. I'm buying Tamiya from now on. What are some of the benifits to using the primer as opposed to just using what I have on hand? To participate you must either login or register for an account. It survived and drank whiskey and played poker with the locals 'til the Texas Rangers caught wind of it and shot it dead.". Excellent Primer, Preserves Fine Detail for Tabletop Models, Reviewed in the United States on November 3, 2018. There is a noticeable difference - the Tamiya is satin and very smooth, the Gunze is flat and has a slight texture. If you buy the Vallejo primer, get a 100ml bottle - it's still way cheaper than the Tamiya spray cans. Pasted as rich text. Welcome to HyperScale's Discussion, Picture Posting & Trading Forums. While many gardeners prefer the reliable production and compact size of determinates, others are drawn to the larger fruits and greater yields of indeterminates. Most importantly, the long term topcoat holdout is excellent. This sprays, and dries well just like the Tamiya gray primer, which is great stuff. would recommend this for a base coat or finish coat..an A+ in my book. Additional details Especially since the post that pulled the old one back is only tangentially related. Placed it in a food dehydrator for two hours. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I think it was probably one of the reasons that markiii mentioned. I agree with everything people have mentioned here regarding using it. Those who claim cheap big box primer is just as good may be right, but will stick to Tamiya. Fill in minor scratches & will show defects, are wet and dry sandable, come in all kinds of colors, and you can contol the spray better with a movable nozzle for side or flat spray patterns and cost as much as the Tamiya but you get a bigger can. To participate you must either login or register for an account. WebThis Tamiya surface primer is by far the best white primer on the market, in my opinion. I got my technique for it from Floyd's DVD.hold the can about a foot away and spray in short bursts building up coverage. Thins it out quite a bit. to an hour before sanding primer. The high floating Royal Wulff works best in faster water. alien, I find them annoying but I ignore them altogether once I see the date of the post started. I think it's worth every penny. The reason I use Tamiya over car primers is the final finish on the dried product. I'm not so you can stop saying it. I'll be doing that for sure and thanks for the reply. BTW, I just used Tamiya's "fine" primer immediately followed by Gunze's 1200 "fine" primer (I ran out of the Tamiya), and guess what? No need to respond the way you reacted. Works for me. It is shinier than other primers (ie: Krylon, Testors). It levels out and dries very quickly even though a lacquer (L) product, although I allow a full I mean we do get new members every day do we not? Fished to imitate the Isonychia nymph. I also love their model kits, especially the 1/32 aircraft. Do not let it dry in For more information on our contributing fly tyers, please see the Catskill Fly Tyers page. The drying time for Tamiya paint is approximately 20 minutes. It is not known what happened to the breeder of Rebel Starfighter Prime or why Galactic Magic Seeds is no longer available. Usually fished dead-drifted, can be effective at all levels of the water column. I've used other brands that might have had slightly better filling properties, but its worth using a couple extra coats with the Tamiya products because they perform so well overall. Maybe, but I've used a Q-Tip dampened with it on my last 15 kits or so to melt Mr. Surfacer (instead of sanding) and it's never attacked the plastic. (From a non-novice novice. Web180ml Spray Can of Tamiya's Surface Primer L (Gray) for Plastic and Metal. The Surface Primer and Fine Surface Primer cover well, spray on smooth, dry quickly, and sand like butter. Perhaps you did not shake it enough or you sprayed too close. If ALL works in my favor I hope to do a 3rd coat let THAT dry and see what I have. It also does well to fill in shallow scratches (and does show you flaws you need to fix before laying down final paint.) Additionally, watering daily with s, This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our, PLANE TALKING - HyperScale's Aircraft Scale Model Discussion Forum. (82) Tamiya # tam87042. Developed by Ray Smith for the Esopus Isonychia hatch, fished as a wet fly. Apparently the Badger Stynylrez primers are very good, haven't tried them though. Tamiya Fine primer can be applied and finish painted without any sanding if a person wished to and it would be more than flat and smooth enough. Only gripe is the cost vs. qty, but it's worth it. 180ml Spray Can of Tamiya's Fine Surface Primer L (Gray) for Plastic and Metal. We are not getting the influx of "new blood" like we used to and if this info can help out a new, young modeler and keep their passion for the hobby strong, then I'm all for it! 4 wodthing 4 yr. ago What? WebThe Gray Fine Surface Primer L, 180 ml Spray Can by Tamiya is built for optimal functionality and high performance flying. This way it goes on smooth, dries rock hard and doesn't obscure even the finest detail. Tamiya has a liquid surface primer that is quite good. Was looking at my Testor's primer which has English instructionsbizarrely worded. Highly recommended! I'm not a fan of the price for such a small can, but it really is a very smooth and great primer. It helps show any imperfections in the model, and gives a nice even coat as long as you don't hold the can in one spot for too long. I am new to this and bought the book, Airbrushing for Scale Modelers, but it does not say how long to wait from last primer coat to first paint coat. 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