shannan watts autopsy

True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek. Her Dad stated that Shanann would often sleep on the sofa when he stayed at the house, and again when she was in NC after Chris arrived. I have always slept with a bra on and I am 43 years old, always. I know, Im a survivor of strangulation. While some muscles spontaneously contract after death and though all muscles eventually tighten into rigor mortis others are loosening their grip entirely. in any case, who the hell trusts anything coming from Chris Watts? They say: Chris told his father, She hurt them. But youre not thinking any further than that. Chris thought that she was dead? The autopsy report said that Shanann had a "history of being reported missing and subsequently found unresponsive in obvious state of death in a shallow grave." The cause of death was. Are you a parent? GREELEY, Colo. Authorities released Monday the autopsy reports of Shanann Watts, 34; Bella Watts, 4; and Celeste Watts, 3. but I dont think she ever went upstairs, not even to check on the girls. Taking it off makes the breasts throb & feel more painful. I know that OCD was mentioned on several instances in the Discovery by those who knew her, but do they have the qualifications to make that diagnosis? From what I understand its not possible to swallow fluids once youre dead. Gastrointestinal Tract: Thats the update; at the beginning of the article, theres a link to the first contact between her and the financial counselor. CW planned it, read it up. Kaye, this sounds plausible. Bella was wearing pink pajama-type top with images of hearts and butterflies. Poor thing. Sociopaths/Covert narcissists wreak havoc and(emotional) destruction on those around them without exception. On page six of the report in the General Internal Examination findings, it states:- Utter Rubbish! He was an operator for Anadarko. He is not only a monster, but also a coward, by quickly disabling his victims. Hey, I appreciate ppls input but to act all high and mighty and be disrespectful of others by trying to make them look and feel like idiotsI dont care how much you know or how smart you are. They were smothered. He knew immediately Watts was guilty as well as the neighbor viewing the camera. Also, CW was looking up dosages for oxycodone, a powerful pain medication that ShanAnn had plenty of stockpiled around the house. Its actually not uncommon. I mean, nothing can be done of course, it is done and is over of course, I am stating the very obvious. Cyril Wect is an expert who always talks about how drowning victims have water in their lungs ONLY if they are alive during drowning and not completely dead !!!!!! One body was face down in the south side of the tank. 3. But yeah I really think he was being nicer to her to assure she had her guard down when he murdered her; which was when she was sleeping, on the sofa upstairs on her phone or laptop, or god forbid he initiated some kind of intimacy that turned into her death. No, so you have same information that anyone else has. And did you mention that the 6 weeks Shannan was in NC with her girls that your Hero Chris Watts was enjoying 6 weeks of being single with his girlfriend, and that was the turning point in their marriage? I cant believe the police let them stay in there. That could explain what possibly happened to Bella if she woke up and was going to see what was going on. Nick Van Der Leek is the owner of this site and you are invited to comment, which is a privilege and we should be grateful. Please have respect for people who suffer with the condition, and research it before you comment about it. I think he had mental issues too. It was a matter of how they were immersed in the oil. Chris probably told shannan that shed never see the kids again.. Jayne is an EXTREMELY experienced K9 handler she can be seen in action in the Docu-Movie Missing 411. Not everyone poops when they die, in fact most do not. But the way he disposed of their bodies and took them out of school, I dont believe that at all. He would have had more than enough access to ethanol or similar alcohols. I did hear shananns mom say let them in her daughters house. She was not drinking! Heres what the autopsy says about Shananns cause of death: The autopsy report said that Shanann had a history of being reported missing and subsequently found unresponsive in obvious state of death in a shallow grave. The cause of death was Asphyxiation due to manual strangulation with Bruising of the Anterior strap muscles of the neck.. I think he killed the girls at the worksite. I wrote a book that tried to integrate information, not just throw the information in the air and shrug. Also, if memory serves, CW did at least one load of laundry on the night in question. October 3, 2018 / 12:35 PM / CBS Colorado. They found nothing of any importance under her fingernail scrapings. He was adamant that no no nothing like that happened but the female agent is sympathetic & is using a technic which is to put the blame on another person & make him feel less at fault. So wheres the problem here? He is a monster. Does this mean Bella was still alive when she was dropped into the tank? The phone was found in the cushions of that upstairs couch, not the downstairs couch. Chris Watts isnt my hero. They asked him ways to murder somebody & he said shoot someone, hit them with a club, stab them, run them over, throw them off a cliff, a bunch of other weird ways but steering wide of strangling. Something that might help with perspective is this financial article in which a wife writes in for advice, because her husband has started sending hundreds of thousands of dollars to a cult: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-woman-made-a-life-changing-decision-after-her-husband-gave-600000-to-a-cult-2017-07-10 . Shanann Was Wrapped in a Sheet & Buried in a Shallow Grave That Watts Dug With a Shovel Police reportsThe crime scene. I have a theory which could explain Shananns ethanol and alcohol levels. Thankyou. I am in Australia and I came across this story by accident and I am just horrified. Chris Watts attacked her from behind, his left hand around her throat and his right hand covering her mouth and nose. She probably snuggled up next to him & was able to fall asleep. CW was already working out his plan to annihilate his family around the time he was getting ready to make his daughters some dinner. Pee and Poo But think about it. She was calling him honey, and being all lovey dovey in her messages to him all weekend. Thats why no defense wounds. He knew right where to thump her neckher surgical site. I dont think enough people are looking at the theory that Chris had flipped a switch with her in the days leading to her death. As far as the BAC goes, it had been over 100 hours from the estimated time of death to when the samples were taken at autopsy. Advertisement. 75 mls is about 5 tablespoons or a third of a standard cup. Ive considered morphine [since Shanann was a lupus sufferer, and needed strong pain meds], but morphine should have come up in the autopsy. I found nothing unusual with that part. I expect they also make youtube channels of women doing things wrong to say why they hate women, even if men usually do more of those things, If he killed her downstairs how would there have been no movement on main floor shortly after she got home. She texted her GF talking about her being a single mom when she separated from Chris. Said it was part of the decomposition process. Shannann even said that he was like another person. That alone speaks volumes how they were approaching their relationship. But thats me. And to come home to a cheating bum! A . The lack of a broken hyoid bone (called thyroid bone in the autopsy?) Everyone on here who has mentioned ocd has an opinion formed by stereotypes theyve heard. ShanAnn was, to put it simply, addicted to her MLM lifestyle and that was the most important thing in her life. There is a text I think to chris. Not a chance she would have run the risk of waking up the children by going into their rooms she knew theyd be fine as shed often said Chris was a good Dad. At least I would have. This guy had some sort of mental problem. For the sake that they did poop, youre assuming he didnt clean it up in the bed. And Ive also learned a LOT about her between videos, and every page of the 1,960 pages of documents released by authorities under Colorado statute. The DA mentioned that. August 4, 2018, 12:45 a.m.: Shanann sends her husband a long text message accusing him of failing to stand up for her after his parents exposed their daughter Celeste to nuts, which she was allergic to. The autopsy noted that recovered items included oil soaked pink pajama type top with images of hearts and butterflies and a pair of oil soaked underwear.. I doubt shed just leave her phone and stuff downstairs like that. Like a scene from Friday the 13th. And where do you think he did it? This autopsy is performed at the request of the Weld County Coroner, State of Colorado. And all I can see is ShanAnns MLM addiction coupled with the desire to live well beyond her means, to give an impression that she was rich-rich-rich, which Im sure she envisioned as a way to promote her business get new people to sign on. Will we ever know the order in which they were killed? I wondered if there was a fight, Bella saw him strangle her mother and ran into the basement to hide from him. Also, we usually can find some urine, fecal material, body fluid on the bed sheet and the quilt. I believe he killed her while she was sleeping, would have been easy to trap her arms under covers. Hello everyone, I wouldnt throw that out the window. I remember one video where shes tasting one of the Thrive bars and effusing over how delicious it is, while one of her daughters cries with hunger in the background, and ShanAnn tells the poor child, No, you cant have this this is Mommys. The autopsy is commenced at 1030 hours, on August 17, 2018 on the body of Shanann Watts at the McKee Medical Center, Loveland, CO. Because she was submerged in oil for four days. Did she even go upstairs to sleep? I own this site, and have posted hundreds of blogs, and written 4 books on the Watts case. That does not necessarily equate to being a psychiatric disorder, just personal empowerment. Youll never see the kids again! WHATEVER!!! I have a question. Unless he threw it there and forgot to take it and planned on ridding of it. If that were in fact the equivalent of an $80,000 *salary*, they wouldnt have been behind on their mortgage and HOA dues. Shan'ann Watts -Autopsy,grave details.Graphic! I did mention that Shanann was still in love with him and wanted a child with, and wanted to work on their marriage right up until the moment of her death. Not whether you or most people would or wouldnt do that do you think Shanann was the type of person to do that? Chris and or others..I tend to agreeShan ann was imodefinitely disabled at some pointBella maybe not..she fought hard. He needed to be executed. Just a thought. That discussion included stating she couldnt afford to live in Colorado as a single mom, AND she would have to immediately pull the girls out of school to save money. I also believe he had that conversation in the morning because I dont know many women that sleep in their bras. Chris Watts was convicted of murdering his pregnant wife Shanann, their unborn child, and their two children, Celeste and Bella, ages 4 and 3. The LeVel MLM was a huge contributing factor in this familys financial collapse. The lie detector test question focused solely on her, didnt even mention the kids. He did something to immobilize or pin down her arms. A monster! Chris Watts advised that blankets and stuffed animals were left by the sheet which was near Shananns grave. Ethanol makes sense, especially because it could be disguised in the chemicals themselves. Chris Watts destroyed three fully formed, perfect adults. At the end of the day there are no good reasons to commit murder, especially of ones own flesh and blood, but there may be valuable lessons to learn from figuring out how this could have happened. I go back & forth wondering if he planned on killing the kids, or if Bella saw & then he had too. What was the motive? Nickole called Chris several times and he kept giving different arrival times. Wow, you are really reaching here. During decomposition, gasses cause stuff to come out but thats a different matter. In this day and age, OCD has become a replacement word for ritualistic behaviour and personal idiosyncrasies. So I do see how Chris did this and ended up with no defensive injuries from her. However, this method is especially brutal, sadistic, and intimate, as he he would see their dying eyes. I dont believe this was planned because everyone says that its ridiculous that he buried them at his place of employment. If you read through the autopsies very well you will see that the oldest girl, Bella, actually bit her tongue several times and had many injuries in her mouth. I was terrified gravity would wreck my boobs. This is from the transcript of the Larry King Live show covering Scott Petersons conviction in the death of his pregnant wife Lacey thats Dr. Henry Lee, a forensic scientist: KING: If there were smothering, would there have been evidence? According to the arrest affidavit and footage from a security camera in the interview room, he failed a polygraph test and subsequently confessed to murdering Shanann. She even labelled food in her kitchen. like others, cannot wrap my brain around his behavior. He knew now that he had to kill Shanann because she would find out. Ive linked an article below for everyone to read about how harmful perpetuating this lie is. They are good at lying and work very hard at appearing normal and very important to be liked. Why does there always gotta be one of those? Plenty of women do. She had the girls in daycare full time to the tune of $500 a week, spending $28k a year per official documents, and this HAD to be a financial strain. At the time of her death, Shanann had been 15 weeks pregnant (via MEAWW). I believe those stains were on the sheets and thats why they were pulled off. He said in his admissions that she deficated during the murder in thier bed, where he wrapped her in a sheet and moved her to the floor immediately- where he was interrupted by the girls waking up (after his first attempt to kill them by suffocating them in thier sleep)- the girls were killed in his truck CeCe was wearing a diaper, so even if she had deficated or urinated it would be unclear after days in the crude oil.. And Bella was likely not dead but simply unconscious again when he dumped her body- therefore, even if she did relax enough to evacuate her bowels and bladder- it wasnt until she was in the crude oil tank. I would say the asshole probably turned them over or put the comforter over their faces and did it that way. 19th Judicial District Attorney Michael Rourke said that Watts totally and deliberately ended four lives, smothering the girls. Unless you count her phone. Ive seen hundreds of bodies both recently deceased and WELL decomposed and I can assure you- while SOME bodies dedicate/urinate due to the relaxing of muscles at the time of death- its certainly not most. Im just not comfortable sleeping without it. Im a survivor. Rigor mortis lasts 8-12 hours. This is horrific, shocking, my mind is greatly troubled by this aspect. I also believe he would have thought out a better place to bury them. How does pretending to be asleep and cowardice align with murder? He said it was emotional but a civil conversation and they were not arguing. Bella fought back, according to the prosecutor, Denver Channel reported. It was all a complete lie. Addendum: The cadaver dog wasaso very interested in the washing machine and his handler, Jayne, says quite clearly that her dog has scented death by the machine (check the K9 video, but watch the volume, the cadaver dogs bark is quite shrill! So if his parents are doing interviews and book deals, he gets it honest I reckon. I guess since theyre children and small its possible. Oil water and sludge debris in the stomach.. Those were my kids. He claimed he saw Shanann on top of Cece and that they were blue. He said he lost it and choked Shanann. Required fields are marked *. https://www.childrenshospital.org/conditions-and-treatments/conditions/e/esophageal-strictures, a medical history significant for peanut allergies. You should apologise to him actually for your rude remarks in your comment. read befor comment on subjectit is well describedecomposition did this. No, this does not indicate that she was still alive. With that much free time in the day, she could have gotten a part-time job and brought home real money. Then he asks to talk to his dad. Heartbreaking evidence photos and video of stained shirt, underwear and bra Shanann Watts was wearing when her husband murdered her, wrapped her in a sheet and put her in shallow grave The. Even if he raged and killed Shannon because she killed her girls, I would much rather be guilty for killing Shannon because she killed my babies then be a monster guilty of killing my daughters so I would have called for help so the cops could do their job and get the evidence to back up my story. Makes me so sick. Or do you believe his lies, that she harmed the kids and then he did same to her? I took a lot of interest in the K9 footage as I had a SAR Shore Rescue dog for 13 years (best nose in Cornwall). I honestly believe Chris smothered them all with ethanol soaked cloths. ~KSmallz. He tells his vindictive wife that he wants out. She loved her kids more than he did, obviously!! Scares me honestly. However, prosecutors maintained that Watts killed his pregnant wife and the two girls, and eventually he pleaded guilty to the crimes. Straight up facts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYC7bHIzuqE. There was no oil in Ceces stomach. No screams were heard in the middle of the night. Is there any way you can send it to my email please. Thats inaccurate. I was VERY proud of my being able to take down the biggest man in my class. They probably already had an emotional conversation before she left for Phoenix and he had made up his mind to do what he did. I lived with one. God I wish she had taken the girls and just got the heck out of there. i did not read many commentsso maybe others have notice thisCeces autopsys did not reveal her oesophasagus( maybe wrong spelling )surgery?this can be a reason why CW tried to keep all of them health documentation avoid been public recorded?becausethere may have been some exageration about it ?on the other sideinsurance policies would have not give them money so maybe this is why the medical bills so heavy?there is something that i dont understand? Because when he called her, he said, mom, they are searching the house. Why would he say that to her if she did not have prior knowledge? If Im interpreting the autopsy correctly he effectively smothered and strangled at the same time but I never see this mentioned anywhere. Even in this scenario, you would expect fingernails in his forearm if Watts managed a rapid 10 second kill. I think despite her bravado, she had insecurities just like everyone else, with both herself, and her roles as wife and mother AND someone working in an MLM. I take comfort in that, Bella and Cee Cee likely had no idea it was their dad doing that to them, but he wouldve wanted Shanann to know he was ending her life. Folks seem to think wanting to know why means supporting Watts or blaming his wife. I am not sure that he planned the murders. He said they had been talking about separating for a few weeks. Like 1 in the kitchen by her purse. Once Shanann got in bed and settled to sleep, he then got on her and, like a snake, squeezed the life out of his prey. Anyways, interesting theories guysthanks! Thoughts? https://letsqueerthingsup.com/2018/05/12/i-didnt-know-i-had-ocd-heres-why-the-stereotypes-are-so-harmful/, She wasnt OCD, and even if she was, what does it matter? Watts previously told investigators that Shannan's killing. He really thought he could get away with this? He continuously maintained throughout the entire interrogation that he would never hurt those kids. If the oil got into her stomach by being submerged in the tank then shouldnt CeCe have oil in her system too. Her legs would have been free, but if he was high up on her chest I doubt she would have been able to even get him with her knees, they would not have reached him. He eventually disappeared for long time, gave me house. Watts, who had initially reported them missing and had made a public plea for their return, was arrested as he admitted to killing them. Chris Watts' plan was to make his family disappear. And so on. @nickdvl. What about rigormortis?. My theory is that he had started to be nicer to her, as evidenced by her text to her friend Cassie the night before she left for the trip. I think he may have snapped and killed Bella first. 53 102 comments sorted by New Add a Comment People with OCD can have obsessions related to a wide variety of things, including losing control, hurting others, unwanted sexual thoughts, and many more. But I think she had some difficulty in raising and tolerating young children. Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW. Thanks! Believe meeven the worst of the worst, hardened criminals do NOT like baby killers.they WILL do to him what he did to his babiesjust a matter of time one of those inmates having NOTHING to lose, lifetime sentences.CW is NOT going to live long once hes let out of his isolated cageGuards will make sure a door gets left open, backs turnedthey HATE baby killers toowe all do. The entire thing is one of the worst cases Ive ever heard of- and I think about those poor responders who retrieved the bodies May they find peace from those memories some day soon. Hence, no struggle, no stretches. Autopsy shows oil, water, and sludge in their lungs, which cannot happen when you are dead. I would like to read the discovery how do I find it? I know it is morbid but I do hope that CW gets his just desserts in jail and those other inmates show him some of the terror that his beautiful girls would have experienced in the last moments of their life. That goes against every human primal instinct we have, it just wouldnt happen. The Netflix show details the deteriorating relationship between Chris and Shanann, who began suspecting her husband was having an affair and felt he was suddenly pulling away from her, a fact she spilled to numerous friends in anguished text messages. There are no words . 2 hours isnt going to bed or going to sleep. Im sure he didnt want any questions from her or to talk about anything. The police reports contain several photos showing the oil drums where the childrens bodies were found. I guess my vanity rubbed off on her. Hed let her snuggle him that morning. 5. He is responsible for his own actions, many people live with worse and dont kill anyone. His mom I think knew about it prior. I believe the DA said there was no evidence of fibers related to the smothering of Bella and Celeste. The Watts murders got to me also. Shannan's cause of death was strangulation while an autopsy found crude oil in Bella and Celeste's throats, stomach and lungs. The police reports contain a conversation Chris had with his father. I hope he gets what he deserves while he is in prison!!!!!! Considering the size of shananns house before they moved there. They were invited by Shannans family to attend the funerals and did not even show. After 2nd child, changed. The womans home was spotless & there was a place for everything & everything was labeled! He just didnt want another baby. Terrifying to think he could have put them in the tanks still alive but incapacitated. They should have been talked to later. A trillion to bullshit thats what they are!!! How would you have reacted in her situation? The next morning, visible fingerprints (the circular marks on Shaanns autopsy), so visible that others took notice. I also think the MLM biz attracts people that are lost, and need to be directed and consumed by something. x, Ive said this before. She didnt try to bite him? All but her office. Thats a power-nap another thing MLM folk are good at. In the report, (link below) stories of financial devastation, destruction of relationships, and even murders and suicides paint a vivid picture of an industry built on lies and deception a business that focuses its greedy eyes on the naive and the vulnerable. The one person who took a few breaths almost immediately fainted. Triggers related to cleanliness and symptoms related to washing make up only a small part of the range Good point! These are just my opinions (based on zero knowledge). Hope he has a wonderful time rotting and thinking about what hes done to his family. Just kind of odd. Chris Watts is the subject of a new Netflix series called American Murder: The Family Next Door. The two girls were found in oil drums. The cadaver dogs noted no presence of bodies in the basement however. Not as bright. Not Shanann! LEE: Depends on sometime we find saliva, large amount of saliva, nasal secretion, mixed with small amount of blood on the pillow. Ive been sleeping in my bra during my pregnancy- because my chest hurts all the time and taking it off even to shower is extremely uncomfortable. Ive slept in my bra for 25 years since I got my first breast implants. Shan'ann Watts tells her husband: "I don't want a video of you" while recording her children Chris Watts Case: What would Sherlock Holmes Do? They are The People Of The Lie. (Scott Peck). Some people believe his story that Shannan killed the kids like he said. So what Was his motivation for that? The same instinct that we as parents have to call somebody for help when our children our hurt. I have NO doubt that CW did a choke-hold on his wife from behind or right side, rendering her unconscious while smothering her airwayshe never woke upis why she didnt struggle or stop him. Also this is awful but he said he had to raise the girls arms up to get them into the hatches of the oil tank. My question is how do you smother someone with your bare handscover/press their nostrils and mouths? I have no insight? Please, if he was worried about the kids, then why did he kill them as well. The autopsy report said that Shanann had a "history of being reported. That is what is difficult; without a trial we have no way of knowing all the forensic evidence and what tests the state started to perform or did perform. Her clothes were even coordinated by colour in the closet. Ive not discussed it here though, its in the books. could also suggest a Stranglehold. You see any documents with that diagnosis? @Nickhi, in answer to your question about the suitcase she might have been so exhausted and wanting to get to bed right away that she left it downstairs, figuring she would deal with it in the morning. There is no soul in his eyes. How do THESE people know? Actually I have a sad experience of watching both my mother and brother pass away in front of me. The kids had two wack jobs for parents. Based on the history provided and the autopsy findings, the cause of death is asphyxiation due to smothering. There is cowardice involved but theres an easier way to attack and subdue someone than to wait for them to fall asleep. I have to wonder if somehow she woke up and saw what happened to her Mommy. OCD can be like gluten-sensitivities. Therefore your theory is not valid. Subdued and buried alive perhaps? Based on the clothing they were found in, probably Chris pretended to be asleep. Hes asked whether Shannan was strangling CeCe or smothering her, at first he says strangling because this is the only thing that makes his story believable but afterwards he knows theyll be no marks so he says hes not sure. Her body had been out in the warm Spring sun for 3 days, leaving the blood and fluids to ferment, if you will, which could have resulted in a false positive post mortem BAC. I didnt know what else to do. Amy thoughts on her? (RJ Sangosti/The Denver Post via AP, Pool) Autopsy reports released Monday afternoon reveal in the greatest detail so far what, exactly, Christopher Watts pleaded guilty to, and why he'll serve the rest of his life in prison.The reports for Watts' pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, 34; Bella Watts, 4; and Celeste Watts, 3; show Watts killed his . One of the unknowns in this case is why Watts did what he did. (He left the house as the sun was coming upmore on this below). She says did Shannan do something that made you do something? 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