Rigo:That guy went on to become the world's largest publisher of neo Nazi material in Canada. Um, Literally rides on a Nazi tank, into the city of Bilbao, uh, at the time when Franco's army is laying seeds to the place, uh, only a few weeks after the infamous bombing of the, of the city of Akaka in the Basque region. He's, he's got this letter from the president saying that, you know, he's a terrific guy and you should support his publication. Lisa:So it strikes me as we're watching this footage of the Phil Donahue Show that the audience is not responding the way Rushton would like them to, I think. He and I were both reading The Thunderbolt, right? Barry:I really got under their skin. So which is bigger, long or fat. The American Breed: Nazi eugenics and the origins of the Pioneer Fundby Paul Lombardo, The Funding of Scientific Racism: Wickliffe Draper and the Pioneer Fundby William Tucker, The New Eugenics: Academic Racism in the U.S. Todayby Barry Mehler, Superior: The Return of Race Scienceby Angela Saini. Uploaded by This guy is so off his rocker. And apparently Draper was also kind of shy. Be the first one to, The Phil Donahue Show with John Wayne (1976), Advanced embedding details, examples, and help, Terms of Service (last updated 12/31/2014). Lisa:I appreciate how clearly Barry Mehler gets to the heart of the issue. We're losing. The Hagley Digital Archives provides online access to selected items from the Hagley Library's collection of images, documents, and publications related to the history of business, technology, and society. Subscribe to our quarterly newsletter for the latest Rigo:The seed of The Pioneer Fund starts in the early 1900s, with a guy named Wickliffe Preston Draper. Barry:It's one thing to, you know You listen to, you hear some kind of quote from William Shockley, but then to see a full page, you know, layout in The Thunderbolt, I mean they were just overtly racist, and William Shockley was their hero. Rigo:Exactly. These ideas just stay in the public consciousness, they don't go away again, and all the work that he did to expose it doesn't really make it stop. Here's money for you. Rigo:So this incident sent Mehler on a path. VHS Collectors Phil Donahue's show started off similar to other shows of its day, featuring celebrities and musical acts, but he soon started pushing the envelope by discussing health and social topics previously considered taboo. Lisa:Hi, Rigo. And the thing he had to hide were 17citations that came from a little known journal called the Mankind Quarterly. WebThe Phil Donahue Show All Episodes 1967 - 1994 Season 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 15 14 13 1 All Overview 54 Episodes IMDB TMDB TVDB Fanart.tv JustWatch Wikipedia Phillip John Donahue (born December 21, 1935) is an American media personality, writer, film producer, and the creator and host of The Phil Donahue Show. His television program, later known as Donahue, was the first talk show format that included audience participation. The show had a 29-year run on national television in America He had his own moment on the Phil Donahue Show in 1980. Lisa, could you read this quote from him? Barry:One day walking on the street, it was a beautiful spring day, and I was daydreaming, and unbeknownst to me, two boys run up behind me, and one of them just punched me in the back, sent me flying, you know, stars, and, you know, and then, then they run on. So when things got hot, you wanted to make sure everything was locked down. The Phil Donahue Show with John Wayne (1976) John Wayne appears on a 1976 episode of Donahue in front of an audience largely populated by women, and he To me, it seems like he's trying to present himself as a reasonable, well spoken guy who's just asking questions, all in the name of academic curiosity, of course. The worst thing they could do would be to harm you, and I'm here to make sure that doesn't happen, so for now, you just We have to stick together.". Barry:And he's endorsed by President Ronald Reagan, uh, right? Uh, they had the platform. Germany modeled its involuntary sterilization laws on ours. Donahue:and a big and larger genitals mean more promiscuity. Rigo:They named it The Pioneer Fund, but sometimes people called it the Draper Fund because it was all of his money, and they funded whatever he wanted. It was the first talk show that included audience participation and ran for 29 years on national TV. And actually, they found ours a bit too strict. [laughs] You'd probably groan and hope you, like, you could avoid him at a faculty mixer, right? You want to publish if you can in a journal with a higher impact score rather than a lower impact score. Let's switch gears and talk about the bearded guy on the right, who has amazing muttonchops. I mean, I wish that some of the millions of people who watch that video would, like, learn about his work, his life's work. His work inspired others like Bill Tucker to follow the money, and the thing that really stood out to me about Mehler's writing was that there was a sense of urgency. But unfortunately for Mehler, this was not the end of it. This episode examines a much more overt kind of scientific racism: by telling the story of a racist, wealthy, underground confederacythat has funded nearly every race scientist out there. McNeil/Leher Report:What has landed the bell curve on the cover of many magazines and Charles Murray on numerous talk shows is that the book also links IQ with race on Mary's bell curve of IQ scores, blacks as a group have an average IQ of 85 whites, 100 Asians, 105. You'd, you'd just hope you didn't cross over with him on any committees. Uh, you know, I, I don't need to be credited, and if you want to discredit me, they were always able to discredit me. Using stories from sciences past to understand our world. Lisa:I really take Mehler's point there. WebPhil Donahue Show interviews, 1984 - Archives & Manuscripts at Duke University Libraries Back to top John O'Toole papers, 1954-1990 and undated Correspondence, 1968-1990 and undated Phil Donahue Show interviews, 1984 Phil Donahue Show interviews, 1984 Containers: Box 21 Using These Materials Info for Visitors How to Request Ordering Is this a secret conspiracy, or is any of it happening in the open? Phil Donahue's show started off similar to other shows of its day, featuring celebrities and musical acts, Read allThe precursor to all the daytime talk shows that arose during the 1980's and 90's. Bill:Draper guarded his own identity very, very carefully so that very few people knew of who was this, uh, multimillionaire who behind the scenes was putting up the money. I, Issue 2 (May, 1991) Twenty Minutes (August, 1991) We were the leaders in the field. Their goal was just to have a platform for their ideas to live on. Rigo:It was a journal for racists by racists, a home for race scientists who had been rejected by other more mainstream journals. The Price is Right? Rigo:Kind of, yeah. I mean, I annoyed them a lot, and so, the- they're calling up civil rights groups, the people that might know me, and trying to, uh, get information, and they said this in their investigation, you know, uh, for a possible lawsuit. 7 (July, 1991) Cross-Port InnerView, Vol. It is around this time in the early 1970s that something happened that could have been the end of The Pioneer Fund. 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Barry:I had to really refrain from, um, speculating on Phil Rushton's penis size, but here was a guy who, "They may have bigger penises, but I've got a bigger brain." This is so bizarre that nobody will ever be able to take this guy seriously.". Their last known grant was in 2019 to an organization based in Ohio whose president has written extensively about racial differences. Lisa:Wickliffe Preston Draper. WebFrom July 2002 to March 2003, Phil briefly hosted a talk show on MSNBC. Lisa:Give me a taste of who we're talking about there. That's the question is, uh, who is funding Philippe Rushton? Lisa:That blows right past yikes into holy crap territory. WebDonahue: With Phil Donahue, Sammy Davis Jr., Dolly Parton, Debby Boone. I really hope this will be of interest to you." Hope it will be revived. Capture a web page as it appears now for use as a trusted citation in the future. It's the Phil Donahue Show, one of the '90s most watched talk shows. And I wasn't just calling them Nazis, I was putting out a context to show that this was a fascist endeavor, and that these people were not only Neo Nazis, but they were just old fashioned Nazis, and I think that it was one of the reasons why they hated me so much. They review each other's books, they write for each other's journals, so it creates a kind of universe, academic universe within a bubble that outside the bubble, no one takes them seriously, but inside the bubble, they can have a resume that looks rather impressive. And it was a dramatic transformation. Here's money we'll send you. This is an episode from the spring of 1990. Lisa:So on one hand, you have a very bored, uh, very racist wealthy boy, and on the other, you have a rising American Nazi. 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Episode 1 from the Innate: How Science Invented the Myth of Race series. This is why Barry Mehler was so adamant that white supremacy was such a serious problem. They printed and mail unsolicited propaganda to scientists, politicians, and other influential people. These things meant a lot to him, and he has a huge inheritance burning a hole in his pocket, so he's looking around for a great social cause to pour his money into, so he becomes drawn to what else but eugenics. 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All this stuff would arrive at my door, you know, and no other name, I just, you know, myself and but, but I was no- Nobody knew me. You know, he's a brilliant guy, and he's got these ideas, and after all, he's probably right. Barry:We had DEFCON levels at my house, levels of security. Rigo:Until a dark side came out. He uncovers dozens of academics with double lives. It's to get the message out, "You can't go through the Jews because they distort everything.". The Phil Donahue Show (1976 - 1992) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive The Phil Donahue Show (1976 - 1992) Topics Phil Rigo:They're projecting, obviously. Instead, they used various combinations. Bill:Yes. "No, we're not passing racist laws because we hate people who are different from us, we're just following the science." Eventually, the popularity of this approach proved to be his downfall, Read all. Lisa:Oh my God, I'm afraid to ask, Rigo, but you're gonna tell me. So they could see it. He ran the Phil Donahue show for almost 3 decades with nearly 7000 one-hour daily shows. It's the Phil Donahue Show, one of the '90s most watched talk shows. Well, the idea of eugenics is basically a belief that the human race could or should be quote, unquote, "improved" by selective breeding. Rigo:And method number two is hide the funding source. They made a lot of anonymous donations, or passed the money through foundations and non profits. He recalled one instance when his grade school son, Isaac, wanted to go play in the woods with his friend, but his volunteer body guard stopped him from going. Hagley Library is engaged in ongoing efforts to address and responsibly present evidence of oppression and injustice in our collections. Lisa:So this is kind of a David and Goliath situation, Guggenheim Fellow versus academic underdog. Lisa:Sure. Innateis made possible in part by the National Endowment for the Humanities: Democracy demands wisdom. Um, but most of the money that Shockley got Well, in fact, really all of the money that Shockley got had nothing to do with research. Rigo:Something that a lot of people don't know is that the Nazis got the ideas about eugenics from the United States. And then he has a long and thorough correspondence and involvement with people in Germany both before and after the Nazi ascendancy. So this guy was a revered physicist at Stanford. Unquote. Lisa:Ah, charming. Normally in my reporting process this is the part where I reach out to the Pioneer Fund or mankind Quarterly -which is also still around today -- But i didn't and theres a very specific reason why that is. Rigo:Honestly, you're not that far off. That's an entirely other level of bad. He was inspired by Hans F. K. Gnther, the Third Reich's most prominent race scientist. Barry:And Ron said to Issac, "Isaac, there are some people who might want to harm your father. Rigo:So Laughlin comes up with their first endeavor. Here's the work I'm doing. If you would like more information, please contact askhagley@hagley.org. He teaches at a college no one's heard of, and he's on a Donahue to debate Rushton. Rigo:William Shockley didn't try to hide his connection to The Thunderbolt. Is there anything that can get you cut off? WebPhil Donahue Show Transcripts (Transcripts), 1981-1982 Scope and Contents The Lectures, Speeches, Interviews series primarily consists of material related to the many lectures, 1 No. Rigo:Exactly. WebDonahue is joined by the cast of "The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of The Desert", as well as the Family Research Institute's founder, Paul Cameron, and drag performer CoCo William Shockley wasn't really producing anything new with their money, and he had a really prickly personality, so when his character got in the way of the message, The Pioneer Fund actually cut him off. You see, I don't see it in terms of we're making progress, and these people are on the run. And not only survive, but was able to, um, make significant contribution to our understanding of what is actually going on. Rigo:Yeah. I was a minor academic in a tiny little institution, and Rushton was a Simon Guggenheim Fellow. Angela:If, you know, the basis of the study of human difference for a couple of hundred years has been that race is real, you don't let go of it overnight, and so of course they didn't let go of it, uh Of it overnight. Rigo:Yeah. It's giving these ideas air, right? 5 (May, 1992) Improving Our Image Powerpoint Our Sorority Issue 15 (April 1987) Phyllis Frye and Phil Donahue TV Guise Vol. And I couldn't give a flying any longer and to the administration and no limit of an administrator is going to tell me how to teach my classes because I'm a tenured professor. They are acutely aware that they're talking about the survival of the white race the same way as we talk about the survival of the polar bears, you know, and of the whales, and of the elephants. It was because I was not a mainstream scholar that I was able to get away with all the things that I was able to, to do, and I did survive. Phil Donahue Show was my favourite! He recalls how his success hosting the call-in radio talk show, "Conversation Piece," in Dayton, Ohio sparked the interest of the local television station's general manager. Is he the psychologist whose work is cited in The Bell Curve? Capture a web page as it appears now for use as a trusted citation in the future. And before you try to tell me that he's still on the fringes, listen to this. Lisa:Wow, this is delightful daytime content. If I was on a national public radio program, that's fine. I mean, they hid themselves for decades, right, behind the scenes so they don't want someone who's gonna be a lightening rod for controversy. Signed, photo. Phillipe Rushton on Donohue:Oriental populations have less sexual partners than do whites. MSNBC canceled Phil Donahues talkshow after an internal memo (leaked to the All Your TV website, 2/25/03) argued that he would be a difficult public face for NBC in a time of war. Barry's Jewish identity was visible to everyone all the time. I've never mailed my stuff out, but that was exactly what The Pioneer Fund was doing, and, and it was a, a strategy that they had to disseminate their information. Enjoy! Rigo:Barry Mehler is 75 years old now, and he's retired from teaching. Bill:He liked to be referred to as Colonel Draper, or the Colonel. Various episodes of theThe Phil Donahue Show (1976 - 1992). He started researching eugenics in grad school, and his methods were not typical to say the least. He has been married to Marlo Thomas since May 21, 1980. Rigo:So he names names, Pearson, Jensen, Shockley, and its newest Pioneer star, Phillip Rushton, and because of this, he's called onto television shows like the Phil Donahue Show. They distributed one of Hitler's propaganda films to American high schools with English subtitles. They had to have two talking heads, and, and somebody had to speak for the other side for them to get their message out, and not only did I understand that, but I don't think that we run this. Barry Mehler on Donohue:He's got a study that compares Nigerian medical. And thus not remediable to major degrees by practical improvements in the environment. Lisa:Let me guess the angle here. If it is your nonprofit, add a problem WebAn icon used to represent a menu that can be toggled by interacting with this icon. Archival of Shockley:My research leads me inescapably to the opinion that the major cause of the American Negro's intellectual and social deficits is hereditary and racially genetic in origin. Play all They weren't seeing the things that Barry was seeing, so Mehler goes down the rabbit hole of white supremacist literature, and what he finds shocks him even more. Having said that, The Pioneer Fund succeeded in their eugenic ideas surviving. It was as if one person had finally realized what was going on, and he was sending out the warning signal. Lisa:Oh, right. Remember, Pearson is one of the founders of the Mankind Quarterly. This was everywhere, [laughs] uh, while I was growing up. Rigo:In 1961, he co founded a journal called the Mankind Quarterly, and guess who's funding the journal? Even though, to be frank, it's also bad science. He knew exactly what they were up to. So he's not just in academic conferences with Nazis, he's also quite literally on the battlefield with them. However, The Pioneer Fund and the Mankind Quarterly are not just any other source. Rigo:The Pioneer Fund only cared about upholding white supremacy. But if you want to go complain to your Dean, you go ahead. Rigo:Yeah. Lisa:Right. WebNeil Diamond on the Phil Donahue show 1993 - full show Kathleen Mosley 19.1K subscribers Subscribe 180K views 7 years ago Neil Diamond on the Phil Donahue show The white race is absolutely endangered, and the Jews have absolutely control over the mind of Americans. His guest for the episode was Charles Murray, who co-authored the 1994 book, The Bell Curve. Rigo:Yes. First, on the idea front. Lisa:In a way, this kind of makes sense for how academia works. His claim to fame was being an expert witness in Buck v. Bell, where the Supreme Court ruled in favor of allowing states to force sterilizations on people with intellectual disabilities. And I decided I wanted to become a rabbi, and my father thought that was a terrific idea, and, and I transferred to a Jewish parochial school, and I began to wear the kippah on my head. He openly endorsed it. So now my anti racism was, was visible, very visible. Rigo:Right, exactly. Phil Donahue's show started off similar to other shows of its day, featuring celebrities and musical acts, but he soon started pushing the envelope by discussing health and social topics previously considered taboo. additions to the collection, news, and events. Its run was I think it's important to acknowledge that what they're gonna say is intellectually dishonest, and therefor it doesn't provide a better understanding of them or their ideas. They, they didn't know me at all. So the short story is that for Barry Mehler, all of this is personal, so when I ask him how he fell into this work, he took me back to his childhood in 1960s New York, where he was just a regular Jewish kid. And, um, my son picked up the phone one day, and this, uh, guy said to him, um, "I'm gonna kill you, chop you up into pieces, and mail you back to your dad in boxes.". Angela:And the consensus was set in stone really by UNESCO, um, in the 1950s in a set of declarations in which they essentially stated that race is a social construct, it doesn't have any biological validity, and that was signed by a number of scientists, anthropologists, policymakers all over the world. But with the emergence of Shockley, they had a mainstream scientist on their team now, and they funded him lavishly from the quote, unquote, "Throne in New York" As they called Wickliffe Draper's house. Mehler's the underdog, and his style was very direct. Lisa:Ah, the classic he who smelt it, dealt it maneuver. Rigo:And there's more. This becomes very clear when you start looking into the citations of the book. Barry:At the time, we had been getting a lot of death threats, and so And by the way, I wouldn't go to the police. Our agenda to port bill Blakemore has been looking into a fairly obscure research fund that has drawn attention because of this book, the bell curve, a fund. Search the history of over 797 billion Lisa:Okay, let me zoom out a little bit. 7 No. Rigo:Why do you think that is? There's like, an intellectual continuity, so that theory Mehler had as a 13 year old boy, that the Nazis didn't just suddenly disappear, he was right. on the Internet. Rigo:So he actually publishes a lot, and one of the things he published was an article in a Nazi magazine. You've got You have something wrong with that? He's even polished when he starts talking about things like sex. Barry:Most people had this view that we were making progress, that everything was getting better, and that World War II was just another move on the road towards progress, and I really didn't see it that way. Bill:Usually people wanting their research to be funded take the initiative to contact funding agency and say, "Hey, look. So up until now, we've been talking about the neo Nazi propaganda that Barry Mehler gets in the mail, but what does he actually do with all the information he's collecting? It was very important for them to be able to find a place where they would be appreciated. Los Angeles - 1985 - Janet Leigh Jamie Lee Curtis.ia.mp4, Donahue. So Pioneer Fund works hard to prop up scientists that they think are going to continue their message, and it gives the ideas credibility in a sense, right, because if they're continuing to get funding then their ideas must not be all that controversial. They decided that Jensen and Shockley should work together, and throughout that partnership, Jensen's ideas change. The political implications of this is that if Black people are intellectually inferior, why bother having a social safety net? Barry:He is eventually recognized by the Nazi government in 1936, both because of his work in the sterilization area, but also because he was a major proponent of the so called Racial Integrity Laws, the laws that prohibited people from being married if they were from different races. And then And then keeping them available as information that can be used when the atmosphere is more favorable to his kinds of ideas in eugenics. He called it The Case of Barry Mehler. The precursor to all the daytime talk shows that arose during the 1980's and 90's. They would boo, they would hiss, they would clap for me, and then boo for him. Rigo:Exactly. There's two things that were going on. Rigo:So instead of going to the police, Barry asked his friends who used to be Marines to come live in his house with their guns and their 125 pound rottweiler. 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