I think there are some other strategies you can follow that will improve things for you. And there's a reason he can't let go of her, and there's a reason you feel like the bond you have with . A big factor in that was that I saw her problems as easy to fix by doing X where my own were much more complicated (in my mind). There will always be something that can be improved, because people are people, and people are imperfect. This, again, is part of why we dont have a good relationship). I dont know, maybe your boyfriend got out of a bad slump by getting really into exercise and tidying up his home, and hes being obnoxious about it because hes become the Helper. I dont try to argue other people out of their feelings, because unless I develop telepathy (avert! 7 Strategies You Can Use To Make Him Fall In LoveEven If He Has Started To Pull Away! When a relationship is 50/50 on decisions (yes, you have equal say!) They do sound like exactly what Id say, though, if I were the type to try and manipulate my partner into getting thinner and doing all the housework. What would be his next project if you suddenly started following all his rules precisely? Being supportive is hard. "Boyfriend when i first met him was sweet and full of potential. If your social group feels patch and thin, take steps to meet new people. Exercise doesnt have to hurt to be effective. I grew up with people who were allergic to being encouraging. Listen to Leah Robins and the Captain if he loves you, he will work with you, and you will be able to laugh together even during the darkest moments of your lives. It sounds like the bf has two other specific things he needs to work on for this to be a healthy relationship: 1. What good is texting someone if youre not really building any kind of connection with them or meeting up in person to have real conversations about something other than how their day was or what they had for lunch? Certainly housework affects him, but what LW eats and how much she exercises doesnt. Having a jerkbrain say them is hard enough. It's concering to me that he never wants to do anything nice together or . Try and find the root cause of why your partner is taking it 2. Whenever hes away, I tend to either eat that or GF pizza (pizza is another of those things) in fact, I might go out and get myself GF pizza for dinner tonight. Then, at the end of any date, I got this huge guilt trip if I didnt show gratitude. He didnt like it when I asked him to not share diet advice. And it shouldnt sound like shes opening the floor to discussion on that one. And how can we fix it? No give me your logical reasons why this is a thing that is hurtful, no I dont think youre actually hurt about this, I think its this other thing. Which in turn meant that every time he took me to a surprise, he could justify it by saying that I always had fun so I just needed to trust him. He didnt like the way I went to the gym when we went together. If you were kind of hiding from them because you were depressed and have shame about how long its been, let it go. I could write something very similar, except were only at 20 years. What does your therapist say about the way your boyfriend tries to continually act as your self-appointed monitor/life coach? Prioritize on how to deal with your boyfriend and setting boundaries, because I know from experience, it can tear down your progress in a flash. I sometimes wish I could timetravel and tattoo this onto my brothers forehead a few years ago. ?, I have to step back and tell myself, hes an adult and its his path to choose, the choice I get to make is whether to help him in the way he wants to be helped, or try to control things. managed to pollute both the minds and the bodies of the American people, but he meant well. I struggle mightily. I keep telling myself that. I love it!! He was scared, I was exhausted and largely unresponsive, and neither of us knew what was going on or what to do. Texting my buddies to see if they are doing something, anything, I can join up with and get out of this situation. Some guys bitch about paying for dates because of feminism (or whatever). you can do it! the whole time. Stop Trying to Fix Your Partner's Feelings Kyle Benson Instead of trying to change or fix the feelings of the person you love, focus on connecting with them. When youre happy and interesting, youll find yourself meeting new people and having the opportunity to explore all kinds of different relationships not just romantic ones! I hope you dont develop any new health problems, but Id personally worry about a partner who doesnt want to step up to helping you through the hard times. When I was unhappy with the way her behaviour impacted me, our living space, or our relationship I saw the fact she wouldnt do the easy, obvious things I told her she ought to as indications that she wasnt actually committed to her claims or our life together. How does this affect you? is a lot nicer than what Id end up saying. But in my mind, thats a world away from dismissing the idea of comfort altogether. Please think about this carefully. didnt care to be badgered about things and it needed to stop. Oh, this reminds me so much of one or two friends Ive had. Controlling me became an end in its own right, because it flattered his ego. its one of the downsides of having a toddler he still needs decent meals to function at anything like a survivable level. Similarly, she may love him and think he is perfect, if he only didnt do XYZ. He says I need to do more, try harder, and not let myself be comfortable. Weve broken up now and I think its safe to say were both much, much happier. Even if you end up staying, youll be on much better footing if you know youre not bound there by circumstance. This! (Like money, work, how one treats others possessions, punctuality, use or misuse of power, objectively insulting words, etc.) Don't let your wishes control your thoughts and feelings. Its also almost impossible to judge a situation from one account one letter, in this instance. I was in a controlling relationship (where I had recurrent depression) and it took being away from my partner for 3 months (he left the country to visit family) to feel the intense relief and lift of stress and realize that the main problem was actually him. Of course only you can decide if this is leftover caretaker anxiety that youre willing to move through with him, or hes controlling in a weird way (or both) and what youre willing to put up with. Or at least he meant something. (Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson, Illuminatus!, [possibly mis]quoted from memory., So, heres the thing about exercise and depression: everyones mileage will vary on that. To literally hear them from an external source that would be really hard to take, and hard to stay healthy. The best way to spark your boyfriend's interest and get him to call and text you again is to start genuinely loving your life. 3) when I said, I walked for twenty minutes today! For those of us with less than optimal upbringings theres this stinger waiting for us as adults. OopsI didnt see your reply to my first post when I posted this one. You are strong and brave to decide that you need to draw boundaries. I recognize that it can be really frustrating to coexist with someone elses depression, but the thing is, your boyfriend is not obligated to stay if he cant deal with it. He is not interested in you. I agree! I have friends who spell it shud because they think its a four-letter word. The first few times you resist his help, I think he is going to release the Logick Kraken, who will logically and patiently recount all of the ways that you could be better if you only tried harder. He would critique all of my eating habits (If I ate a piece of candy, he would yell about how it is full of lard! and I would sit in front of him and make lots of eye contact and say Tasty tasty lard. I only do that in ways that SHE has approved, and that weve mutually decided would be comfortable and appropriate for me to do. That is exactly the right way to help, I think. You deserve to be with someone who shows you respect who likes you the way you are, who isnt always trying to fix you and who listens when you ask him to stop certain behaviours rather than telling you your request is ridiculous. I hope that both you and the LW are able to get the unconditional love and actually helpful support you deserve, either in your current relationships or elsewhere. When your boyfriend stops calling the first thing you should determine is whether you did something that may have gotten him upset. So before you jump ship, make sure to use your words. This is awesome! They are going to find your assertiveness attractive and pleasing and be relieved that maybe they can stop worrying about you. Be honest about how you feel. +1 absolutely, always. If youre not into cooking, make a weekly date to try new restaurants in the neighborhood. and it helped him maintain his desired weight/made him feel good and he thought it was delish so it meant that I should. Good luck LW, positive thoughts your way! I said You know, a lot of the time people do what they want in the moment & dont think it through, especially when theyre having powerful emotional impulses. He was like well that way of life doesnt make sense. I wish I could say I dumped him, but in fact what happened is we got through the sucky date, and he later told me our relationship had gotten stale, citing that fight as an example. Heres some signs your relationship is over in all but name and Facebook status: It may seem like a good thing if you and your man never fight, but take it from a dude I never want to be wrong. Let's discuss four things that happen when you actually stop chasing a man and how this affects the relationship. Hmm, this one is more what others have done for me. Think hard and make plans. LW you got this. If it were me five years ago, when my self esteem was non-existent, and I were reading this comment thread, my heart would be sinking to my shoes at the very notion of a breakup, because I dont want to be alone for life and who could ever love me again if I screw this up? So every time he drove me to a surprise, which slowly morphed into _every fucking date_, I had all this tension and stress. I was overwhelmed with adoration and new hope. Hes developed some very strong and unrealistic expectations about ways LW will change. Sometimes I clean, sometimes I knit, sometimes I go for a walk, but I feel like the fastest way to undermine him is to should at him. It is possible that he can be moved out of the fixer mode, but, if he stays in fixer mode then nothing will ever be enough. Because if Im honestly doing it to help, I should do (and should want to do only) what is actually going to be helpful. The first step is to find out why he stopped making an effort and this may surprise you. I need you to scrub the toilet is reasonable you need to do more vigorous exercise isnt. Essentially, he supported me equally on good days and bad days. Even if he genuinely wants you to be well and capable and happy, instead of just better conformed to the you he wants, hes being hlepy. Depression. You still get to decide whether you like him. That does not sound like respect. Or maybe its because walking isnt competitive in any way? Im struggling to find good ways to respond to my boyfriend when he tells me what I should or need to be doing. 2) Even if being prompted to do things like eat better food, exercise to work off stress etc was beneficial to you..its still wrong and bad to do it without an agreement, ESPECIALLY when the promptee has explicitly asked the other person to not do it. I certainly noticed the drop in my fitness when I moved cities to a place where I could no longer walk to work every day. (But again, I do think its an excellent tool to help evaluate a relationship.). If your boyfriend is receptive to feedback, wants to repair the relationship, and expresses a desire to respect your boundaries, a conversation may be a healthy way for you to find closure or express your hurt. and exercise a few years ago. Like, it is AWESOME if you ate a bunch of vegetables that you wanted to eat because you thought they sounded delicious and healthy, and it is also and equally AWESOME if you.. ahem did not. I dont know if that makes sense? Hey, when I say, I did X! and you say, Great! He wouldnt criticize you and dismiss your choices as being inferiorhed show a genuine interest in the improvements you are making for yourself and be supportive of them instead of tacking on a bunch of additional repairs that would suit his (personal, clearly individual) view of How His Life Would Be Better If You Would Just Upgrade Already. Do not copy, print, or repost entire posts elsewhere without written permission. LW, you are already doing so much good stuff for yourself, and at your own pace. It is about him. And he does this because he realizes that accounting for the emotions of other sentient beings is logical! I had to work this out with my young man. When your boyfriend stops making an effort, there may be a good reason behind it. Hlepy people may accept correctionor they may not. And it is reasonable to want people who are important in your life to be supportive and helpful. I dont think that his intent upset or control you but a desire for you to do better born from a internal selfishness that it would make his life better or easier. Also, I think its wonderful you put food down in front of her. He wants to spiral your self-esteem back down, and then play the good boyfriend who knows whats best for poor you card. It doesnt matter what a partner is interested in controlling, your food intake, your hairstyle, how much work you do, how much sleep you get; when theyre trying to control you and cannot seem to be redirected, it is time to take the advice of the Doctor. This isnt sustainable. When he complains that youre not cleaning, is it because youve actually made a mess? Clear your mind and take a step back, try not to have any irrational thoughts. And when he realized that I wasnt counting walking as exercising but really enjoyed it, he encouraged me to think of walking as exercise, brainstormed ways WITH ME to fit it into my day more, offered to walk with me, and asked me if I wanted a pedometer (note: he did not just buy me one), 4) when I felt like I couldnt do anything but lay on the couch and rewatch TV shows Id already seen, he sat next to me and read, or watched his own shows with headphones in and just quietly let me know he was there WITHOUT JUDGEMENT. My ex did this. And throughout this time, avoid distractions such as social media. When your boyfriend stops expressing his love for you, then it is time you took stock of the situation. He may have had his fun with you, but now he is ready to move on. Probably better to stop and say why am I angry about this?. Anyway, enough about me. It kind of seems like he is very invested in being the one in control of your life and success, and that is at great odds with your wish to be the captain of your own ship, as it were. You are not the target demographic. Feeling upset with the situation that your partner is not healthy? You know what, these are things that I have my therapist/doctor to advise me about. It sounds like hes making you miserable and hurting your recovery. When its not great, things like this are no longer handled delicately If hes yelling at you over small things, there is no way his head is still in it. See if there are ways you can make some of the self-care you want her to do easier. it doesnt extend to someone elses body/diet/etc, and EVEN IF YOU WERE OKAY WITH THAT or had asked his advice (and you do not ever have to), you still get 50% weight, which is the ability to say Thats nice that you think that, but Ive decided nope. One of the reasons my partner has my trust when it comes to medicine things and my parents do not is because when I say to them I am trying this new thing for X, because my doctor thinks it will do Y without causing Z side effect my partner replies with Cool, hope it kicks in and helps you feel better, let me know if you need me to do anything and my parents reply with a long list of reasons Doctor Oz thinks that its the most evil drug in the world and how can your doctor be competent if theyre prescribing this drug that moms degree from Google University taught her to think is bad?. One notable occasion was when I got interested in a new industry and there was a 3 day workshop I wanted to attend. And if its sunny then thats even better because I may have seasonal affective disorder (working on finding out with doctor) and the bright sunlight is just wonderful for my mood. Not once, not twice, but every time you call. Tell your boyfriend that you feel scared and rejected when he doesn't call or text, because you're worried he's not interested anymore (if that's how you feel). If you can see your fine self, he might fear that you he has to keep you under his thumb to keep you by his side. Your bf is trying to make you break up with him. And sometimes, just for fun, exercise causes my body to mimic the feeling of a panic attack, and so I get inexplicably upset and frantic about normal life events! Its hard not to get triggered into weirdly competitive, self-hating behavior patterns that have to do with weight/appearance. nuanced (especially when exercise is not the only project Im undertaking at the moment.) If theres child support or alimony involved, the presence of those forms should be able to take care of the financial requirements.). It sounds like you live together, and that breaking up isnt a logistically or financially simple matter as well as being emotionally scary and taxing. If hes not pulling his weight, then this is an attempt to manipulate you into doing all the work. At a minimum, he is not currently doing the first half. They are what they are, and you cant force someone to evolve. God, Im such a pathetic LOSER! And cue the tears and stress eating and whatever other bad depression habits you thought youd gotten under control. * If you dont see him getting anywere on that front, please dont think you have to keep pushing to make it work even at this point, nobody could fault you for leaving if thats the route you end up taking. But I know we never get the whole story with these letters. It took me over 12 years to learn that. Bravo! When I was in a very similar situation, my ex could talk for days about how my not meeting his standards affected him. Thats a complicated and unpleasant thing to wrestle with every time you step onto an elliptical. A lot of times he may have hinted you before that there was something that bothered him. Not only is that (a) SO VERY NOT COOL, its also (b) likely reminiscent of the very types of behaviors that led to you developing those not good enough feelings in the first place. Maybe BF wants to push you because he thinks your mental health just requires external pushing. Ding! But this is what worried me most when I read your letter. i suffer from anxiety, have self esteem issues and insecuriti. Hopefully asking questions like this would help suss that out. If youve ever had that feeling of emptiness in the pit of your stomach, when you realize your boyfriend stopped making an effort to make things work with you, this article is for you. He will always be someone who has a history of serious self harm, who has anxiety and gets very low mood crashes. Honestly the best thing for me was talking with a therapist on my own and learning boundaries (see my comments above). My Jerkbrain doesnt do encouraging, whereas it is full of advice for how I can do better, much of it pretty rude. A big thing about this for me is the control he seems to want over your life. But really nothing in that letter sounds like a happy, healthy time. If it does happen though, most times he will cancel on short notice because something came up at work so he couldnt get out of it. Its inexcusable in any of those forms!!! Yeah, he sounds like the things my Jerkbrain says when I am doing a really good job in my life and my asshole brains like YEAH well, itll never be good enough, SO! He also sounds like the physical (/verbal) manifestation of Compulsive Skin Picking which is *literally* a process by which I pick myself apart. Ugh, people who think their duty to hound you into achieving your potential is more important than your need to be listened to when you say you dont like that and they should stop! Apologise, and never say that to me again. Maybe the simplest (and best, to be completely honest with you about how Im feeling about this dude) answer is:You dont make each other happy anymore, and youd both be happier if you ended it and found someone more compatible. But that partnership is one weve negotiated and practiced over the years. They write because stuff is horrible and awful and they cant work out how to fix it (without breaking up). LW that may sound really harsh about your boyfriend, but from where Im sitting it sounds like a very toxic place for you to be. And Im never one to turn down a good Jedi telehug, so thanks for that too. You do most of the calling, talking, buying of gifts, planning dates, visiting, etc. Hell yeah! Hlepy is a word I learned over at Making Light. A lot of people who have disabilities end up with serious social problems, at least for a while, as they have to figure out which people will still treat them well and which will cause them problems in all sorts of new ways. If I have to cook a decent meal for the toddler, may as well cook for two at once, right? If nothing changes, then its time to decide whether this is something you can live with or not. . When I started to develop some self-confidence! He says that he still loves me even if I dont do these things (but it doesnt feel that way to me). But even if it comes from good intentions to fix you, its ableist and hurtful and the opposite of helpful. He wanted to call the shots. What then should you do when your boyfriend stops making an effort? For me, life is better without him. It sings a familiar refrain, and it so neatly echoes what your Jerkbrain sounds like or sounded like before you started getting treatment for your depression. Run. Then, repeat what you want him to do and make the boundary plain: I hear you, but I want to be clear: I dont want you to do that anymore., Please stop correcting me and advising me., I appreciate all the help and support youve given me, but I actually need to navigate this on my own., I dont like it when you tell me what to do., The Silent Treatment is really not cool., Youre not the boss of how I eat or exercise, and I think its going to be healthier going forward if you stop monitoring that stuff and if I stop reporting it to you as if you are my nutritionist or trainer.*, I dont need you to change me or to be right about this, I just need you to love me and trust me to do the right thing for myself., I realize I was in bad shape for a while, but as I try to get better, Id like it if you would stop monitoring all these things about me and just found a way to enjoy my company., You may be right about that, but Id still like to handle this on my own without your input., I know you want to help, but I would like to set a boundary around advice-giving. When your boyfriend stops showing physical affection like kissing, hugging, touching or sex, it can be a sign that he has lost romantic interest in you and is thinking of leaving. You might think about trying an extended period of being away from each other, if such a thing is remotely possible. When I started college, and made other friends, and had a job of my own. But I didnt realize just how miserable his misery was making me until it got to the point where I was rolling my eyes at him and dismissing comments (not always out loud, but sometimes) as being stupid or idiotic. It wasnt until a few months of this that I realized just how acutely disrespectful my words and actions were, and it took another few weeks before I finally put together that continuing to live with someone for whom Id lost all respect wasnt doing either one of us any favors. Sure, its better if you are exercising and eating vegetables I guess, but if you dont thats fine youre great anyway. 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