Bryan Hitch Still Drawing The Authority- But For What? [8], Lieber, who credits Lee as a good editor, writer and writing teacher, said his brother made very few editorial changes to Lieber's scripts. MS. SINGER: No worries. Thanks to Daniel Best for posting these public transcripts online. Please enable JavaScript in your browser's settings to use this part of Geni. Q: And what was your involvement with Iron Man? So it wouldn't look like it wouldn't just be a short story, it would be it would describe the I was worrying about somebody else's feeling, and I figured, well, if I make it U-R-U, there's not that much to letter. I used to like to draw and copy them and so on. I didn't want to give a light tone to it. I used to go to it and gets parts of names to put together."[17]. You say the characters? LARRY LIEBER: No. LARRY LIEBER: Yes, there was something printed on the back. [9] Lieber began working for Goodman as an art assistant on the magazine side, "doing paste-ups. I learned well enough that I was able to give a course some years later for him. [21] Lieber wrote the first nine Ant-Man stories (following the character's non-costumed introduction months earlier) in Tales to Astonish #35-43 (Sept. 1962 - May 1963) before veteran Ernie Hart did five issues, followed by Lee taking over. date of birth. Q: Now, as a freelancer, if your work was rejected, you wouldn't be paid for that, would you? I think I wanted a little more freedom. I put in a voucher. So I couldn't do that, I couldn't work. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. LARRY LIEBER: Uh-huh. But both are doing them, you know, about playing a part. Larry D. Lieber [1] (born October 26, 1931) [2] is an American comic book artist and writer, and the younger brother of Marvel Comics' writer, editor and publisher Stan Lee. I said "Yes, I needed work. In his early childhood he spent time living in. I remember once, and I dont know when it was, but my uncle, Rob Solomon, took me down to Timely Comics.". Did you have any involvement in The Rawhide Kid? Sep 08, 2015 at 12:12 pm. Q: What was Ant-Man's name? LARRY LIEBER: They had about three stories in the magazine, drawn by different people. Suddenly on Saturday, March 22, 2008 at his home. Right here at FameChain. When he's giving me this, I never thought of writing. Read more. He remembered writers from the past. Q: And that artwork was also purchased by I don't recall. My only experience was in the color comics. Q: You also at times did artwork? Sometimes if there was a lot of action, you might play up that panel and only have five, let's say, one panel across. I'm a little unclear about leaving the superheroes and going to Rawhide Kid. , Larry Lieber, Jerry Siegel , Robert Bernstein . I had been living with relatives and I was going to the Art Students League studying As Lieber explained, Lee, wasn't always the most patient person and I had problems [writing] the dialogue and he said, "Why did you say that? (At this point there was a break where testimony was taken 'off the record' at the requests of Marvels lawyer. LARRY LIEBER: He made up a character and he wanted and he asked me to write it. Stan was writing it and after a while The Hulk wasnt doing well and Stan decided to give it up, or give up his part. [16], Under Stan Lee plots, Lieber would go on to script the debut origin stories and other early appearances of the superheroes Thor (co-created with artist Jack Kirby) in Journey into Mystery, Iron Man (co-created with Kirby and Don Heck) in Tales of Suspense, and Ant-Man (co-created with Kirby) in Tales to Astonish. American comic book writer and creator Stan (8 years older) Works Larry Lieber Movies (5) There are 5 movies of Larry Lieber. The others are worse than me. And now this is the part where I ask you same thing he asked you: If you can just give a pause so if I have to jump in with an objection. Q: If you understand the question, you can Jay Lieber, beloved husband of Judy. The media giant, which acquired Marvel in 2009, on Friday sued Larry Lieber, who helped create the characters Iron Man, Thor and Ant-Man, and the estates of several other artists, including Spider . The Larry Lieber Deposition For The Kirby Family Vs Marvel Lawsuit . Q: Did you come up with any of the names in Thor? I think I did. Q: And was it your understanding that the import of the writing on the back of these checks was that by signing the check and accepting payment for your work, you were transferring over to Marvel all rights in your work? LARRY LIEBER: I would think during that period I always did, but there was a time but I don't know when it was, that's why I started to say that when I once or twice did it differently. And since nobody knows the name of it, I'll make it a short name. When Larry Lieber went back 'on record', he was being question by Toberoff, who is acting for the Kirby Estate) Died 12 Nov 2018 at age 95 in Los Angeles, Los Angeles . We need the help of good genealogists to grow a completely free shared family tree to connect us all. Q: in this photostat copy are scotch tape? LARRY LIEBER: They I was in the office, the Marvel office. Yes, sure. (I still retain an affection for western comics.) [8], After returning from the service, Lieber attended Manhattan's Art Students League. LARRY LIEBER: Okay, I didn't know the term. I I don't recall getting it at home. LARRY LIEBER: Yes, it's correct. I needed someone to write the new feature, which would hopefully be Marvel's fourth winner in our little superhero sweepstakes. Were the scripts that you wrote for Iron Man, Ant-Man and Thor, were those Marvel style? MS. SINGER: Objection. LARRY LIEBER: Well, my brother made up the plot and gave me a synopsis. Writer: Iron Man. Larry Lieber was born in Manhattan, New York City, New York, the second child of Romanian Jewish immigrant parents Jack and Celia Lieber, and the brother of the nearly nine years older Stanley Martin Lieber, later best known as Marvel Comics editor and impresario Stan Lee. Q: Okay. He remembered writers from the past. Jack Lieber (father) (L-R) Stan, Jack, Larry and Celia. I think I had them then because I I don't recall thinking there was something new, but perhaps, perhaps they weren't there. Jim's a bona fide expert on the Marvel Age, having worked as a historian for the publisher's website for 17 years, but his interests go far beyond the House . When I did Rawhide Kid, I wanted people to cry as if they were watching High Noon or something. LARRY LIEBER: Well, when I started, as I said, Stan said to me, you know, I said I'm not a writer. agent Susan seeks the Hulk. Larry Lieber, interview by Daniel Best http://ohdannyboy.blogspot.com.au/2007lerry%20Lieber%20Geni/08/look "It [comic book publishing] was in my family really. That was the way I interpreted it anyway. These were all scripts in advance [that Kirby would illustrate]. The only, and this isn't interviewed, but, no, no, no, no, no. MR. TOBEROFF: Go ahead. So that was my first victory if you want to call that a victory, right. He is now 83 years old. [8] His first superhero work, the first appearance of Marvel's Thor in Journey into Mystery #83 (Aug. 1962), introduced one of the mainstays of the Marvel Universe, the mystical metal "uru", of which Thor's hammer Mjolnir is made. Though he gave up the role of regular artist in Spring 1979 and the role of regular writer in mid-1982, he would still write and draw the occasional installment until the strip's end in September 1982. "[12] He again drew for his brother, editor Stan Lee, at the 1950s forerunner of Marvel Comics, known generally as Atlas Comics, though whether on staff or freelance is uncertain. Celia had one brother: Joseph Solomon. LARRY LIEBER: No. And as time went on, he had fewer to make."[14]. He worked most of his life as a dress cutter in New York. Q: And where would how would you get the idea for the story? It was the latter half of the 1960s when I became infatuated with Marvel Comics, among the favorites was Larry's Rawhide Kid. Q: Do you know who came up with the idea for Thor? Lee was known for being Marvel Comics' lead creative leader for almost 21 years.. With his work alongside co-writer/artists Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko, he co-created many popular fictional characters, including superheroes Spider-Man, the X-Men, Iron Man, Thor . Q: Now, when you submitted your freelance work to Marvel, whether it's script or artwork, was it was it your understanding that Marvel was obligated to purchase that material from you? It's vague. Synopsis. Jack Kirby would go on to write and pencil the Thor portion of Journey into Mystery with dialogue by Lieber and Robert Bernstein until issue #90 when . Q: Did you were you ever interviewed in connection with any lawsuit previously? And they didn't give me the work, and Stan had said he wasn't surprised that they didn't because they would be suspicious of me working for them while I'm Stan Lee's brother. Lieber. My brother was back from the Service, he was just married and he moved out outside of New York to Long Island. LARRY LIEBER: The civilian name of Don Blake I made up. Maybe there was just too much humor in it, or too much something. J C Lee. So he hired somebody and then the next week when I came back to him he said, "Larry, you know something, you're no good, but you're better than these other guys". Well, if it was seven-page story, I would have each page what was on the page. Q: For all the time you worked there? Larry Lieber was born in Manhattan, New York City, the second child of Romanian-Jewish immigrant parents Celia (ne Solomon) and Jack Lieber, and the brother of Stanley Martin Lieber, later known as Marvel Comics editor and impresario Stan Lee. He, he I never had to, you know, go home and do it again. LARRY LIEBER: Probably I brought it to the office, I would say. Now, I knew nothing about black-and-white comics, right? I I liked it was an opportunity for me to write and draw the same strip, and that appealed to me. Q: And the black marks on the left and right-hand margins [11] This included creating the names of their respective alter egos: Don Blake, Tony Stark, and Henry Pym. Q: We don't have to worry about I'm focusing you, I'm sorry, I'm focusing you on the period 1958 to 1965. Larry Lieber is an American artist who was born in 1931. LARRY LIEBER: I don't know the year, you know, all the years and I don't know if it was. Being the son of a Hell-Lord, Daimon Hellstrom became a Lord of Hell himself, drawing power from the Hell dimension. Q: And just to follow up on something you said, you mentioned a letterer, what was the job of the letterer? Celia married Jacob Aaron Lieber on month day 1920, at age 26 at marriage place, New York. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. LARRY LIEBER: And once I tried, because I couldn't get work from Marvel and I sent some samples of my not original artwork because I didn't have it, but I sent some comic books over to DC through a friend of mine, Frank Giacoia, who had worked for them, they knew him. [2][29][31] Lieber also penciled the Sunday page again from 1990 through at least 1995. Larry Lieber, who scripted the initial appearances of Iron Man, Thor, Ant-Man, Loki, Fin Fang Foom, and other heroic and villainous characters in the Marvel Universe, has sued Marvel/Disney for a bigger portion of the pie. His first feature film was Thor: Ragnarok (2017). LARRY LIEBER: Yes. Q: And when you say "the script," that's what we were talking about before that told panel by panel? I made up a plot and I brought it in to the editor, and the editor thought it wasn't good enough and told me to go back and rewrite it, the plot, work on it some more, develop it. I think it might have been Don Heck, but I'm not sure. I lived with him for a while and it didn't work out so well. MR. TOBEROFF: Just a second. Marvel Comics founder and longtime publisher Martin Goodman had left Marvel in 1972, having sold the company in 1970, and launched this new company in June 1974 to go head-to-head with Marvel and DC Comics. And what what did he provide you with or what did he ask you to do? stated in. And I also came up with his hammer. "They needed superhero-reprint covers, and I could do them somewhat in Kirby's style. And the script that you wrote for Iron Man, was that a full script with the panel breakdown? I don't remember when I first got them. Indexer Notes. Lieber is best known for scripting the first appearances of the Marvel characters Iron Man, Thor and Ant-Man; for his long stint both writing and drawing the Marvel Western . "[8], Atlas/Seaboard and return to Marvel[edit] In 1974, Lieber left Marvel to take on an editorship at Atlas/Seaboard Comics, the term that comic book historians and collectors use to refer to the "Atlas Comics" line published by Seaboard Periodicals, to differentiate it from the 1950s Marvel Comics predecessor Atlas Comics. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. LARRY LIEBER: Stan offered me I had to earn a living. I I've been looking at the books and it seems with a few of them I did. None whatsoever. Devoted son of Issie and Marsha Lieber, and son-in-law of Jeannette and Rejean Gagne . So I always felt I couldn't get work from any other company, and some years later, I met the man who was the, I guess, art director there and we were we were chatting, and I happened to bring this up about I sent work over and I never got it, and he looked at me in surprise and said, "You mean that was on the level?" After you finished writing the first script for Iron Man, what happened? LARRY LIEBER: No. Husband of Joan (Boocock) Lee married 5 Dec 1947 in Reno, Nevada, United States. Fury war-comics story or a standalone tale in one of the Marvel line of black-and-white magazines such as Vampire Tales or Haunt of Horror. [23], With the end of his run on Rawhide Kid, Lieber found little further Marvel work. But I don't yeah, yeah, Stan. They tried somebody else and it didn't work out and they offered it to me and I started doing it and I've been doing it for 20 years now it'll be. He was putting out color comics, and he was also going to put out black-and-white comics like Warren and Marvel. Q: The "he" when you said "he"? LARRY LIEBER: No. Larry D. Lieber [1] ( / libr /; born October 26, 1931) [2] is an American comic book artist and writer. What I didn't prefer was the style that was developing. Larry Lieber is Stan Lee's younger brother and wrote Marvel books in the sixties such as Iron Man, Thor and Rawhide Kid. 3 references. Happy 90th Birthday to comic book and comic strip cartoonist Larry Lieber! "[24] He considered seeking work at rival DC Comics, as some other Marvel writers and artists did, but found, "I was the only one who could never do that because that was the price for Stan being my brother. Q: What is the what is the instance you can recall where you had to redo something and weren't paid for that? I made that, which people know about. MS. SINGER: Yes, carrying over. Q: Did you ever did you have any contact with the story after you turned it in and made whatever changes? "[8], At 17, Lieber became a messenger for The New York Times and also found work at the Times Square studio of Sam Furber, a letterer whose work included movie posters. Tudor City had a park, and when it was nice I'd sit there and break the story down picture by picture. Slowly surveying our entire, vast writing staff which mainly consisted of myself and any occasional freelancer who happened to wander in to make a free phone call my gaze happened to fall upon Larry Lieber and I remembered that he had many times expressed a desire to write a superhero story.[19]. Q: What how did you come to work on Rawhide Kid? [11], In 1978, Lieber began penciling and sometimes inking the new daily and Sunday comic strip The Incredible Hulk,[29] written by Lee and syndicated by the Register and Tribune Syndicate. I didn't speak to him. No. I'm sorry, I don't. LARRY LIEBER: I believe so, yes. Q: So you came up with the name Anthony Stark? Ancestors. Both are captured by the mysterious Mr. Nash, who wants to clone the Hulk. LARRY LIEBER: No. I know I made it short because I felt that Thor might be around a while and I was always worrying about the letterer or somebody. Is that consistent with your recollection? Dr. Lawrence D. Lieber is a Orthopedist in Lombard, IL. LARRY LIEBER: Stan. Q: And the "he" there was Stan Lee? Q: And you were writing scripts? [5] At "about ten-and-a-half", with his brother in the U.S. Army, Lieber and his parents returned to Manhattan, moving to the Washington Heights neighborhood. LARRY LIEBER: No. Larry Lieber Signing fee - $40. Q: Okay. I also, you know, I also, in doing this, I had to use the sense of the visual. 369 subject(s) created by "Larry Lieber" 3 work(s) that were produced while "Larry Lieber" was Editor-in-Chief 142 work(s) where "Larry Lieber" worked on a cover 56 work(s) that "Larry Lieber" edited 282 work(s) that "Larry Lieber" wrote 157 work(s) that "Larry Lieber" penciled 33 work(s) that "Larry . '"[20] Under Lee's plotting, Lieber's eight Thor stories also introduced the Marvel characters Loki, Odin, and Balder, from the pantheon of Norse mythological gods; their home, Asgard; and Bifrost the Rainbow Bridge, which connected that realm to Earth. As Lieber, in a 1999 interview, described his experience as editor: When I went there, Martin put out two kinds of books. Marvel? Born 28 Dec 1922 in New York City, New York, USA. MS. SINGER: Objection. They tried somebody else and it didn't work out and they offered it to me and I started doing it and I've been doing it for 20 years now it'll be.[8]. I know that at the time I wanted what's the expression? LARRY LIEBER: No. So that was my first victory if you want to call that a victory, right. In the mid . [11] Lieber recalled, The template below (Block quote) is being considered for deletion. My the reason I remember is that I was worried about paying my rent, and I wondered, if he doesn't like this, how often do I have to keep redoing this plot. LARRY LIEBER: Oh, yes. Bryan Hitch has been pencilling, inking and tweeting a double page splash of The Authority, after James Gunn's news what could it be for? MR. TOBEROFF: "Getting back to the writing aspect"? I assume I I I must have put it in and given it to Stan's office, perhaps his secretary or somebody, I think I did, and then they paid me and I I don't remember. LARRY LIEBER: I believe so. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Lieber. He would give it written to me. I don't remember when I first got them. Lieber then succeeded Kida on the daily strip in 1986. 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